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Hollywood - Metaphysical

Boomers on the Edge Season 2 Episode 41

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The world of Boomers on the Edge takes a mystical and hilarious detour in this unforgettable episode. Join Kenn and Ron as Ron recounts his adventure into Hollywood during the 2010s, when his longtime passion for screenwriting led him to a Pitchfest—where aspiring creators pitch movie ideas directly to entertainment industry insiders.

A screenwriter for more than 13 years, Ron arrived armed with three wildly original concepts:

  • Business Casual – A comedy about an adventurous 1980s computer sales team using unconventional tactics to drag America’s corporate dinosaurs into the PC revolution. 
  • Spirit Medical – Heart transplant patients in Chicago begin experiencing disturbing visions and memories tied to their donor organs… all traced back to Spirit Medical, a Detroit hospital abandoned for over 40 years. 
  • Rut World – In a bizarre future where human mating cycles mimic deer, elk, and moose, Max Austin must fight to survive the government-sponsored annual spectacle known as “The Rut.” 

But pitching high-concept ideas in Hollywood isn’t easy—especially when you’re a Michigander explaining “rut” to confused executives or trying to convince them that ghostly donor hearts make perfect thriller material. With help from his son, Ron navigates the chaos of the pitches, cultural misunderstandings, and surreal reactions, creating one of the most legendary stories in Boomers on the Edge history.

Funny, chaotic, and wonderfully offbeat, this episode is a classic Boomers on the Edge adventure you won’t want to miss.

  • Boomer rating: Under the Edge.

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SPEAKER_01

Hey, and welcome to Boomers on the Edge. Some guys in their 60s who still think they're 16. Your hosts, Ken and Ron. Let's get started.

SPEAKER_00

Hey guys, Boomers on the Edge here. Another nice selection of music, Rob. Yeah. And for those of the listeners who don't know, we go through a selection process each time that we uh come up with a podcast. I think this one was called Synchronicity. Yes. And um, anyways, Ron sometimes has to think about music in relation to you know the screenplays that he writes up, right?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I started working on screenplays now, believe it or not, like 20 years ago. Yeah. As a hobby.

SPEAKER_00

And you didn't even like English in school. Now you write, now you write all the time. Yeah, I do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I well, people would say to me, you know, these stories you tell are funny. So um You know what Mendelssohn would want to know though? What's that? Is how's your punctuation? You don't have to be perfect in a screenplay. Okay. That's it that would be. Too bad we couldn't say that to our teachers when we were getting graded. I don't want to turn this into a screenplay show uh thing, but okay, you're when you write a screenplay, your dialogue and so forth is not it's how people talk. It's not okay, it's conversational. Exactly. Conversational would be the right word. Yeah, exactly. But you're probably wondering why we had that weird, mysterious music. And it's synchronicity. Yes, it it kind of goes with one of the stories I'm gonna tell about a screenplay that I wrote.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So let's hear it. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I started writing screenplays, like I say, years ago.

SPEAKER_00

He's not just writing these things, you guys. He's actually taking them out to California.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's what the story is about. So I uh quite a few years ago now. This story actually, uh, I went out to California and we went to something. I went to something and signed up for first time I'd ever done it as a screenplay writer, is called a pitch fest. And so a pitch fest, if you can picture it, it's really cool. They set this up with like picture a fancy hotel, and it was in Burbank, California, and it was a like a room that you'd have a wedding in or something, and it had a whole bunch of doors on the outside. Like they opened up all, you know how you can, you know, sometimes they have those ballrooms they can open the walls, and this thing's enormous inside, and there were actually over 70 tables inside. Okay, and who's sitting at the tables? And they're directors, producers, the decision makers, all kinds of people representing small organizations, independent organizations, and even some big movie houses. Yeah, exactly. You get a book ahead of time, and it says, you know, like uh here's people looking for horror movie genre movies, here are people looking for comedy. And so you take your screenplay and you put the screenplay, you actually make little sheets that are like promotion, describes the movie, describes the you know, the plot and so forth. What you're supposed to do is it's almost like the gong show. So you say, okay, I want to pitch this movie, it's a comedy movie, and this group's looking for that. And so you look in your little directory and you get in like line 70, and line 70 puts you in line to go to table 70, and then they you stand outside in the hallway, and then they open the doors like a gong show. Like there's only five minutes involved. And so you get in line, you go run over to table 70, make your pitch, you sit there and you pitch for five minutes, and then when the pitch is up, it's like bong over with. Wow. The move you out, okay. So do they ask questions at that time?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Five minutes worth.

SPEAKER_01

A couple things. When you go to one of these, I had one movie done, uh screenplay, and really done. And then I you don't just go out there with one screenplay because they're gonna the guy's gonna say to you, most likely, or lady, do you have anything else?

SPEAKER_00

What else you got?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so you have to go out there with so I went out there with three different movies. I I went with uh Business Casual, which was a business story about some of these sales stories that you literally hear on this show. Beautiful, which were as a comedy, yes, okay, and then Rut World, which we'll talk about in a minute.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and people might not get the you know what's that? People might not get the connection right away with Rut World, but we'll let you know. And Spirit Medical. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So I had these three movies. I have some really funny stories though that go with two of them. Matter of fact, the business casual got reviewed, and we had feed, you know, we got to go like on a second discussion and that kind of thing. So it actually got somewhere. But a lot of these stories, again, like I mentioned that you hear on this show, uh, are some of them are scenes in that extra comedy screenplay. But anyway, that's not the point of this story. We go up there and I had my two other movies, and I said I wanted to go pitch those. And my son, who at the time was out there uh going to school, he he was gonna go with me going to college. We go in there, and the two stories are I'll tell both of them. We go in to pitch uh spirit medical. So spirit medical is, and I have to give my pitch here real quick, or you won't get the point, is uh a story about a hospital that at night goes in an abandoned hospital that comes alive with ghosts that are taking hearts out of ghost bodies, and the hearts somehow end up showing up at a real hospital in Chicago.

SPEAKER_00

Like part of the donor.

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, like all of a sudden this heart shows up and it's coming from ghosts. And we won't go through the whole pitch of what the story is about, but they my son was staying with some friends, the individual, he's he's been involved in the movie business and stuff, and so I told him my pitch, and he goes, I don't I don't I I have a question. He goes, The hearts. I'm like, Yeah, they come out of dead people, like come out of ghosts. I'm like, Ghost, worse than that. Yeah. I said, Yeah. But then they end up in a hospital. In a hospital into a real person where they're gonna get transplanted, yeah. Yeah, it's for a heart transplant. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, uh, I don't get it. You know, I'm thinking, it's a movie, you know. What do you mean you don't get it? He goes, Yeah, you you you gotta have that figured out. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, I got it. He goes, it's a metaphysical transformation. Oh, metaphysical. And I'm looking at him like you have lived in California a long time. I didn't even know what that means, okay? Right. So my son is 50 cents were that that was good information. Thanks. Uh, you know, appreciate that. So anyway, we go in back to the whole pitch thing, where at the pitch fest, we go in. This director, he's literally director from a studio, and he's got a funny hat on. He's kind of a heavier set guy, and he's sitting and he's listening, and he's listening to my pitch like I just gave here on the to everybody here in the audience. You telling him about the ghost, yeah, spirit medical and the heart and everything, and he goes, Let me stop you there. I'm like, yeah, he goes, the heart. I'm like, yeah. It comes out of a ghost. I'm like, yeah. Goes into a real person. Like, yeah. Normal question, normal question. And my son reaches over my shoulder and goes, it's a metaphysical transformation.

SPEAKER_00

And the guy goes, that's fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, oh, okay, is the metaphysical connection? California, baby. That's that's California Hollywood. So the other one was this. My other movie is called Rut World. Rut World. Okay. And I came up with this idea where you know how, dear, you're a hunter. I'm a hunter. Okay. And I don't know how much of the audience is going to know this. When I've told this story, by the way, to work friends or customers, yeah. They're like looking at me like I don't even know what you're talking about. Matter of fact, there's one guy who, if he hears the story, he's going to start laughing because he thinks rut is the funniest thing he's ever heard after he heard this story. But let me just continue. So the rut, for the audience that doesn't know, it's a very important time of the year. Deer only mate one time a year. And deer and other deer like animals, moose, and such, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And they go into a mating season, right? And it's called the rut. Exactly. Okay. So in Rut World, in the movie, in the sci-fi movie, man to try to curb human population has screwed with the genetics in such a way to try to stop people from having sexual uh activity on a regular basis that they would only mate one time a year.

SPEAKER_00

I don't like the sound of that.

SPEAKER_01

And so, and so in Rut World, there's a rut. That's what it's called. Rut deer. So there's a human rut, okay?

SPEAKER_00

I think you put too much thought into it.

SPEAKER_01

So this is the movie, okay? So that's not the point of the joke. Okay. Anyway, so that's the movie, but everybody in the audience has to know what I'm pitching, okay? Right. So I go, same thing, open the door, boom, boom, run in the room, go to table 60 or whatever. I'm like, and I'm pitching it just like I did to you here in the audience. And the guy's like, looking at me like I'm speaking Chinese. I'm like, rock. You can do that pretty good, though.

SPEAKER_00

You weren't using that lingo. According to my brother.

SPEAKER_01

And that and so then we kind of finish because five minutes like boom, and then you have to leave. And like, we walk out of the room. We don't even get two feet away from the table. And my son's like, Dad, dad. I'm like, what? He doesn't know what rut means. He's from California. I'm like, what? You don't get it. They're hung up on the rut. Right. They don't get it. And I'm like, what? Really? So we walk back out. I swear to God. We don't even care which table we set at. They could be, we could be sitting at somebody looking for fairy tales for all we know. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I said, okay, fine, let's go test this. We go right back in the room, run over to a table, and I say, I'm not going to pitch my movie to you. I'm going to ask you one question. And the guy goes, What? I go, what does the word rut mean to you? And he says, uh, I don't know, like a person's in a rut. Uh I go, but like, if it was like related to animals like deer and moose, does that mean anything to you? The rut? No. So I'm like, oh my God. So I can't pitch a movie called Rut World in Hollywood. Maybe you can pitch it to the people in Michigan outdoors. So so what was funny is one of the other things that would happen at it at this was you could go and have a luncheon, and they would have a table after you did your pitch and everything. And they you could sit with people from the industry, you know. So I'm sitting with a bunch of people from the industry, and one guy, he had been in uh actually making horror movies for years. Like he had been around. I'm kind of mid-level stuff, you know. And so this other lady next to me, she's a uh ghostwriter. There's people, you know how these people on uh the news like to say they wrote these books? Yeah, they didn't. Yeah, they did. I I met a bunch of them. Okay, they write the books, they write screenplays, they do it for them. And so she's talking to me, and I'm over here complaining to her. I'm telling you, I'm saying Rutworld was big in Michigan. Okay, everybody loved the idea. It was a great concept. They love Rut World, okay? And they and the guy who's this horror, he's like this short little horror movie director guy. He's been doing it. He's like, he's like in his late 50s and he's been doing it for like 25 years or something. He goes, Are you still over there bitching about your Rutworld? I'm like, yeah, I don't understand why it didn't go over, big and he's like, he goes, You listen to me, man. I've been doing this business for years. He goes, your movie had everything we need. Sex, violence. It was great, but you're never gonna sell a movie in this town called Rut World. Up World? Yes. So that was it. So we had a hell of a lot of fun out in uh Hollywood, yeah, Michigan guys trying to pitch movies in Hollywood. And to the animal that could be a movie in itself, right? Yeah. So anyway, that was the story. I shared that with uh many, many customers. And one guy at one of the autos, every time he'd see me, he'd go, hey, metaphysical. So okay, hey, thanks for listening to those. Talk to you guys later. Take care. Hey, thanks for joining us here on Boomers on the Edge. We hope you'll join us again. And until then, have a great time. Thank you.